And so it begins...

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hooligangirl

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And so it begins...

  • on: November 18, 2013, 08:30 PM
Hi, Everyone!

My name is Tessa. Have always been intrigued by the game of metal detecting and busy saving towards my first detector, a Bounty Hunter Platinum. (Quite fitting, as I hail from Rustenburg!)

I'd like to go into beach metal detecting seriously for a few weeks each year, sell off some of what I find, keep some others and use the money to help develop this passion.

Questions, though...

How do I go about getting permission to detect on the beach? Is it like a fishing lisense?

Is the jewellery legally mine? How do I prove ownership?

Where do I sell my scrap metal? Reckon fishing sinkers can be resold to tackle shops. Gold and other precious metals?

Looking forward to the answers. Know someone has them...

Louis Kriedemann

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Re: And so it begins...

  • on: November 18, 2013, 08:47 PM
Hi and welcome to the forum.
detecting on beaches is for free. all beaches belong to the state. no permits required for detecting.

Alan

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Re: And so it begins...

  • on: November 18, 2013, 10:26 PM
Hey Hooligangirl,

Luuk has given you the short version :)

Most beaches are open to detect.  Some district municipalities have put bylaws in place which requires permits.  The first permit I got from the City of Cape Town was issued in 1996.  Has anyone ever asked to see a permit - nope. 

I said most beaches, the SA legislative environment is not friendly toward metal detectors.  Play around on SAHRA's web site and you will see that any registered or un-registered wreck site is protected.  The SA definition of the site include the wash or spill areas.  In Florida you can detect on the land side of the wreck and anything washed up is yours (give or take the size of the concession that the salvage company has).  Here it is all protected.  Even sadder, if you find a pre-decimal coin - it should actually be handed in - not sure were - but that is the view of the average archaeologist in SA and they put the laws together.  Have I ever handed in a old coin - nope.

Big jewelry finds: I have been advised that when finding a valuable find, put an add in the paper.  Not a picture, just an add stating that you found - say a ring in the general location.  It works the same as a deceased estate, run the add of the deceased and if no one responds within the required time frame, they can not come claim moneys later.  Do I do this on every item of jewelry I find - nope.  Have I done it - yes.

When it comes to getting the best value for your find.  It is simple - the scrap metal in a ring is not worth that much.  I try and locate the owner.  The scrap metal value may be R90 but the reward based on the sentimental value of the item is often R500 plus.  That's your best money for gold and a smile is worth a million bucks - I have often turned down the reward.  For the gold that is left, find a jeweler that can get to know you and who will buy your gold and pay you the value of the refined gold.  It makes a big difference.  Good stones are even harder to sell.  I have found that working with a few jewelers who get to know you and trust that you find your finds and they are not stolen, let them know what stones you have for sale and when they have customers who need a stone sell it through them.  The difference is getting R500 for a 50 pointer or getting R7000 for the same stone.  PS get your stones certified, a EGL certificate is not expensive as it is calculated by the weight of the stone and that way you know the value of the stone.

Sinkers are a good way to make friends with the local fishermen, the value of the sinker is a lot less than the value of their memories.  They are on the beach a lot, give them a few sinkers, use it as a point to start a conversation and ask them if they have ever seen or remember hearing of some valuable item lost on the beach.  I got one of my best finds like this and it was worth a lot more than the sinkers.

I have attached an example of a EGL certificate.

Happy hunting,
Alan 

Peter Callahan

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Re: And so it begins...

  • on: November 19, 2013, 06:13 AM
Hi hooligangirl. Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to seeing your finds.
Peter

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Re: And so it begins...

  • on: November 19, 2013, 11:05 AM
The laws are too vague. I like think that Courts and Lawmakers are at least reasonable human beings that takes things in context. If our laws where litteral you'd need to be a permissioned archeologist to import a spade. Therefore I do believe that it's in context. if it's important or a dead dinosaur report it if it's ooold respect it. The same idea as with littering and vandalism.
Also be sensitive towards respectfull sites like graveyars or cultural herritige.

But I think at this point we still have our act together. It's not like in my schooldays where kids get out of hand so badly that the school eventually get forced to ban something. If we keep it healthy and respectfull it won't need to go there.

Any old scrapyard will accept anything you have but it's better to take your precous metals to a gold/secondhand jewlery trader.

Welcome to the forum. :)
« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 11:11 AM by Gremlin »
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Re: And so it begins...

  • on: November 19, 2013, 11:18 AM
I think a detectors permit or a way to prove that you detect on a recreational basis would be a good way to help you sell jewelry. Just take the permit with or perhaps even your detector.

I think the jewlers would be able to tell from the item that you are not messin a round. If the jewler don't wan't it then it's probably an item you should not keep, like a perfect mint fresh drop ring where the bride has not yet stopped crying and might still be out there looking for it.

It's a controversial hobby.
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stevo007

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Re: And so it begins...

  • on: November 20, 2013, 09:22 AM
Hi There, Welcome to the site.  Happy hunting ;D
What doesnt kill you makes you stronger!

hooligangirl

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Re: And so it begins...

  • on: November 20, 2013, 07:23 PM
Hello, again and thanks for all the sound advice. I'll definitely make use of it! Can't wait for my machine - gradually working towards my savings target.

0nly one exception to be made as far as freshly minted diamond rings are concerned. If a jilted fiancee throws it into the sea, and I find it months later, it's mine... :-)

TinCup

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Re: And so it begins...

  • on: November 20, 2013, 07:53 PM
Hi hooligan girl

Welcome good to see the ladies enjoy detecting as well

Danny

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And so it begins...

  • on: November 21, 2013, 06:27 AM
Metal detecting is listed under recreation there is no law to stop you hunting on the beach but stick to the code of contact and don't make pot holes ,nature conservation area  you can detect but not allow to dig if you dig not allow to remove if you remove you not allow to take if you take you allow to go back lol .welcome to the club


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