purifying silver

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Louis Kriedemann

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purifying silver

  • on: May 12, 2015, 09:01 PM
Science is fun!!! pity I only find that out now - should have found that out in school ;)
spent a while on sunday destroying some of my silver coins
I dissolved a couple of tiekies in nitric acid(3d - for those too young to know)
once dissolved pour the pretty blue acid through a coffee filter to remove all the solid gunk
take a piece of clean copper wire and wrap it around a pencil and remove it from the pencil
next drop the copper coil into the filtered acid
this is where the fun begins :D the acid starts to dissolve the copper and for every copper ion removed from the coil of wire,
it is replaced by an ion of silver.
in a couple of seconds the coil becomes this big fluffy thing and when the 'fluff' gets too much
or too heavy it falls off.
 when the coil is dissolved pour the mix through a clean filter. use some water in a spray bottle to get all the fluffy stuff into the filter. when drained pop in another copper coil. repeat till no more fluff forms
spray the filter with clean water to wash any acid/copper out and put the filter out to dry or dry it in an oven
the greyish powder that you recover can be directly smelted in a crucible and will be 99.95% silver
I ^%#^&%* LOVE SCIENCE!!!

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 12, 2015, 09:28 PM
Thanks for the explanation Louis. How did you melt the coins? Have you got a crucible?
Paul

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 12, 2015, 09:48 PM
Thanks for the explanation Louis. How did you melt the coins? Have you got a crucible?

you must listen in class >:(  :o
the coins are not melted they are dissolved. the powder is melted ;D
I made a clucible from 1600 degree C fireclay. used it for smelting brass and alluminium
if you havnt got one and you are only smelting a couple of grams at a time then you can just use a potato
cut a thick (20mm) slice of potato and use the smelting torch to carbonise the upper surface and then just put a
small amount of silver powder on it at a time and smelt with the torch, and keep adding more and smelt till you
have a nice little ball of silver and allow it to cool down

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 12, 2015, 10:44 PM
Now THAT was an interesting read! Any pics to illustrate? Would love to see!

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 13, 2015, 06:54 AM
Wow!.....thats great info Louis....I have 10 grams of a mixture of Platinum, palladium and rhodium.  Any ideas how I can separate this lot??
Where is that five Shilling???

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 13, 2015, 06:58 AM
PS....I Think Paul should get detention!
Where is that five Shilling???

Louis Kriedemann

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 13, 2015, 08:12 AM
Now THAT was an interesting read! Any pics to illustrate? Would love to see!

sadly I never took any pics.(as usual)
with the next batch I will take a few pics

Wow!.....thats great info Louis....I have 10 grams of a mixture of Platinum, palladium and rhodium.  Any ideas how I can separate this lot??

I read up about a relatively simple process for the extractrion of these metals but of course it entails a lot more than the simple extraction of silver. I will see if I can find the article for you

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 13, 2015, 08:28 AM
Thanks Louis. Now we all know what to do to get rid of those pesky 5c pieces..lol
Peter

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 13, 2015, 08:33 AM
Thanks Louis. Now we all know what to do to get rid of those pesky 5c pieces..lol

those 5c pieces are another story. I have got hundreds of them. I want to find an easy way to  recover the copper

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 13, 2015, 08:37 AM
I found the original article from which I learned to purify silver(thanks to the history om my pc and google of course)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread810904/pg1

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 13, 2015, 09:22 AM
Thanks for the explanation Louis. How did you melt the coins? Have you got a crucible?

you must listen in class >:(  :o

PS....I Think Paul should get detention!

LOL. Sorry. I guess i will have to wear 5 pairs of underpants to school today....just in case I have to go to the principles office
Paul

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 14, 2015, 06:46 AM
Thanks Louis...
Where is that five Shilling???

Louis Kriedemann

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 15, 2015, 04:25 PM
there seems to be a twist in the tale here.
after all the silver has been taken out of the solution I have been wondering about recovering the copper,
but it seems that this can only done on industrial scale by chemical and electrolytic process.
today i took the copper solution and put a pinch of iron filings in it. there was no immediate reaction but
after a minute or two these black monsters began to grow in the solution and once they became big
and fat they floated to the surface and stayed there
I have filtered them off and for all intents and purposes the filtered powder looks like powdered copper
I will at some stage attempt to melt it and see what results I get

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 15, 2015, 04:37 PM
I read this article about it on the internet one day. Just could not get it over my heart though to destroy the coins I worked so hard to get....Lol, very sentimental this one.

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Re: purifying silver

  • on: May 15, 2015, 05:14 PM
 :D Ja I know the feeling. have been hoarding a heap of coins since forever. a lot of them are so worn that you cannot even make out much detail, but I kept them safe. ???
I took out the worst of the worst and I am slowly turning them to liquid then to powder then to shiny shiny pure silver

WHY??  I dont know.
I'm a detectorist - I do silly things ;D

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Re: purifying silver
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