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Title: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 08, 2014, 07:09 PM
What's up , I'm Keagan , new to metal detecting , I saw a guy at homestead metal detecting wile I was fishing and that sparked my interest all over again , so the next day I bought an ace 250 for half price used once , deal right !? , and so IV been detecting now for 4 days strait and it's awesome , I've only got 4 coins to my name , would have a howl lot more if I had the right spade , all IV got are those stupid square shape spades and 4 inch isent worth the dig , wanted to know if someone's willing to show me the ropes sum time , and if any one has an old spade I can buy that's suited for the job
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Post by: Shaun Silver on July 08, 2014, 07:20 PM
Hi Keagan , did the guy at home stead give you a hand full of sinkers ?
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Post by: Peter Callahan on July 08, 2014, 07:32 PM
Welcome to the forum.
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 08, 2014, 07:55 PM
Hay Shawn , ya , was that u , we still got a few fish with those sinkers dude , thanks , lol
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Post by: Shaun Silver on July 08, 2014, 07:58 PM
No problemos , hahahaa , i have not found any good spots to hunt in Benoni yet , but check out the finds we are making in Pretoria at Lady Selborne , in the show your finds section .
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 08, 2014, 08:06 PM
Sweet will do , I found an old 20 c at my mates place , most of my friends live on plats , I'm sorted for a wile ,their houses are 100 years plus old , the ground is blady hard though ,
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 08, 2014, 08:08 PM
Plots
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Post by: Shaun Silver on July 08, 2014, 08:10 PM
Thats awesome , do invite me to one of your hunts , love my ace 250 , takes a bit of time learning what she is telling you.
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 08, 2014, 08:18 PM
Haha , for sure dude , but u gotta help me find a spade , I'll pm u my number I can't remember properly but u have a custom spade right

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Post by: Shaun Silver on July 08, 2014, 08:33 PM
home made one , got a extra one you can have just need to grind it
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Post by: Paul van Heerden on July 08, 2014, 08:53 PM
Haha , for sure dude , but u gotta help me find a spade , I'll pm u my number I can't remember properly but u have a custom spade right



All you got to do is take your square spade and cut it with a grinder to a nice size. Have a look at this thread

http://treasurehunters.co.za/forums/equipment-and-gear/spade-mod-grin/
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 08, 2014, 09:34 PM
Thanks landuse
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Post by: Tom White on July 09, 2014, 07:49 AM
Welcome to the forum mate
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 09, 2014, 07:54 AM
Thanks
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Post by: Tom White on July 09, 2014, 07:57 AM
Hope you find a lot of nice things
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 09, 2014, 08:46 AM
Hahaha , so do I , I would be digging the park next to my house but the ground is hard as he'll , so hopefully I can pick up a digging spade from Shawn silver
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: James Kraft on July 09, 2014, 09:26 AM
Morning Keagan

Welcome to our community. Don't worry, the more you hunt the more you will learn how to interpret the signals that the machine gives you. My advise to you is initially to start digging almost every signal that is non-ferrous. This is the best way to understand your machine. Also remember to post a pic of yourself in the "Putting a face to the name" section if you want to. This makes it easier for the community to recognise each other in the field and makes everything a bit more personal.

Post your finds as you go along and don't be afraid to ask questions. As always, keep coil to the soile mate. ;D
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 09, 2014, 02:52 PM
Sweet , thanks Jamesk , I spent 5 hours out at homestead dam , I got one 5 rand coin , four 2 rand coins , 2 old Pepsi bottle caps , some weights and junk metal , will post a pic of my finds tonight , I got sick of pulling up pull tabs so I set my gerrett to custom where I left the last three bars on so only silver and it worked out well ,
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Shaun Silver on July 09, 2014, 03:06 PM
Hi Keagan , im only working half day Saturday , want to check out a space in Boksburg , if you want to join and then i can give you your spade .
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 09, 2014, 04:10 PM
Dude fore sure , I'm defenetly hooked on detecting , and would love to hit a new spot with u ,
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 09, 2014, 04:19 PM
Hay guys was wondering do those hand held pinpointers help ? Are they worth the cash u have to dish out ?
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Post by: James Kraft on July 09, 2014, 04:42 PM
Mate, in my experience and I believe others will agree with me...A pinpointer is the beez kneez...It makes target aquisition and recovery much faster and prevents damage to the object due to incorrect pin pointing with the machine. Ask Shaun what difference it makes. He will tell you exactly what it is like hunting with and without one here at Lady Selborne. My advise, get one as soon as you can afford to do so.
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 09, 2014, 05:15 PM
Hahaha , okay , then I'm gonna def need one , who has a spare I can buy ?
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Post by: Danie on July 09, 2014, 05:25 PM
Welcome and enjoy the forum....
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Post by: Paul van Heerden on July 09, 2014, 08:39 PM
Sweet , thanks Jamesk , I spent 5 hours out at homestead dam , I got one 5 rand coin , four 2 rand coins , 2 old Pepsi bottle caps , some weights and junk metal , will post a pic of my finds tonight , I got sick of pulling up pull tabs so I set my gerrett to custom where I left the last three bars on so only silver and it worked out well ,

Just remember that if you discriminate against pulltabs, you will never find gold. The two give exactly the same readings on most detectors, especially the 250
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: James Kraft on July 09, 2014, 08:48 PM
Sweet , thanks Jamesk , I spent 5 hours out at homestead dam , I got one 5 rand coin , four 2 rand coins , 2 old Pepsi bottle caps , some weights and junk metal , will post a pic of my finds tonight , I got sick of pulling up pull tabs so I set my gerrett to custom where I left the last three bars on so only silver and it worked out well ,

Just remember that if you discriminate against pulltabs, you will never find gold. The two give exactly the same readings on most detectors, especially the 250
Have to agree with you landuse. Although I do not have a Garrett, I have seen it with Tomcat's ACE 250. Some signals given as foil and pulltabs etc are actually coins and other important relics. Even on the Xterra 305 I only run in All Metal Mode. I need to, and want to hear what is under the coil at all times. Here is an example. If I hit a 36/40 signal, it is possibly a penny. The same signal with an occassional 44 is almost certainly a piece of rusted tin or other metal. I I however discriminate the 44, I will assume it to be a penny. Likewise with orther signals. The combination of signals make you understand what is under the coil. Just thought I'd give my 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 09, 2014, 09:31 PM
Jees , dident  know that , thanks guys , was wondering now , is it true the deeper metals in the ground that are detected are most of the time the more worth wile to dig up ? At homestead the deepest reeding I got wile pinpointing a signal was 4 inch , and I found that the ground is 8 inches deep most of the way along the bank , well 8 inch until u hit a hell of a lot of small pink colored rocks so If I get a reeding of 8 inch in those conditions I could expect sum thing old and potentially valuable ?
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: James Kraft on July 09, 2014, 09:51 PM
Do not be lured into a false sense of security with the depth indicator. It only serves as a guideline. Small objects like a 3d (tickey or 3 pence) can be right below the surface and will be indicated as a couple of inches deep. On the otherhand, large objects like a metal trash can lid can be indicated as shallow while it is actually deep. Object size plays a pivitol roll. A coin lying on it's side will also give a choppy signal while a coin lying flat will give a more constant signal. It is therefore important to scan a signal side to side followed by a 90 degree turn and scan again thereby making a cross scan. It helps a lot. This is also where the pinpointer comes in handy. Always verify a sinal you intend to dig with the pin pointer. If it detects the object, it is shallow regardless of what your machine says.

I must tell you that about 90% of all coins I have found is just blow the surface to 3 to 5 inches deep. I found a 1878 3 Pence just below the dust on the surface in the veld at Middelburg that was lost during the Boer War. I am not however saying that valuable items are not deep. It depends on the history of the area you detect in. If coins for example was merely lost, they are quite shallow. The same applies in general to plowed fields. If the ground was leveled or land fills occurred, it can be quite deep.

If the target was however deliberately burried (Farm Land as example), what you seek can be quite deep. In such cases you might find that what you seek is undera large piece of Ferrous Metal or corrugated iron to cover and protect what was burried underneath. Hope this is helpfull.
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Shaun Silver on July 09, 2014, 09:55 PM
James got it spot on , especially on the Ace 250 , and yes a pin pointer is a must , in the last two hunts i damaged x3 finds .
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 09, 2014, 10:34 PM
That is some what of a relief, less work digging I guess , thanks a lot guys , most of my coins have been in less than 4 inches of dirt , so at least I know that most alarms from metals in 2 ich won't be just a bottle cap or pull tab , and I see that a pin pointer isa must , it's just that I can't spend 2000 on a new pin pointer ? That almost what I paid for my gerrett 250 there must be a way to make one from scratch using a kit , it doesn't need to be pretty , just needs to work , if u can make a metal detector using a kit I'm sure u can make a pin pointer , I'm gonna get hold if my mate that's basically a technition , he was hired to fix circuit boreds and such by Samsung and sum other brands when he was 16 , so I'm sure he will find a way , does any one have a pin pointer that has packed up or broken? I wanna see if I can bring it back from the dead , or atlest have something to copy for a desighn ?
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Paul van Heerden on July 09, 2014, 10:35 PM
On my 250, all I discriminate is the first two bars which only show iron. The foil and pulltabs get left for me to decide whether I dig them
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 09, 2014, 10:43 PM
Good idea , I'm gonna try that on Friday on my mates plot and surrounding plots , thanks
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 10, 2014, 02:07 PM
So I took landuses idea and used it today , it helped allot , my first find was a gold chain necklace !! , then two very old coins . They so in crusted I can't see what they are , and the rest of the digs yielded bottle caps , pull tabs and sinkers , I'll post picks of my finds soon
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Post by: James Kraft on July 10, 2014, 02:11 PM
Nice going there Keagan
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 10, 2014, 02:15 PM
Who knows how to make that machine that uses a charger or something to get the rust off

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Post by: Paul van Heerden on July 10, 2014, 03:05 PM
Who knows how to make that machine that uses a charger or something to get the rust off



An electrolysis machine?
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 10, 2014, 03:36 PM
Ya , I found instructions and made one , it's busy clementine my coin as we speak
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 10, 2014, 03:59 PM
Can u electrolys a coin for too long ? That mite damage a Cain or can u leave it on for as long as u want
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Post by: Paul van Heerden on July 10, 2014, 04:07 PM
Can u electrolys a coin for too long ? That mite damage a Cain or can u leave it on for as long as u want


Electrolysis can ruin coins if left too long. Great news on the gold too!!
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 10, 2014, 05:39 PM
Okay cool , and thanks gonna sit down tonight and Coleen the chain , I cleened up these two coins after electrolysis , they were so badly rusted and in crusted that they look like plane copper blanks , but I could just make out two sparrows and the 1 so they were once 1 cent coins haha
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: James Kraft on July 10, 2014, 08:45 PM
Sparrows and a 1 might not only be a 1 cent mate unless it is a coin minted from 1965 onwards. If it is older than 1965 it might also be a 1/4d (1/4 Penny or Farthing). What is on the front? Possible pic will help to identify also
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 11, 2014, 10:15 AM
Sorry guys , iv been trying to post pics since last night , my blackberry won't let me will have to try with the computer later , but to answer jamesks question about what's on the back , well , there is no back its just worn awy copper
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Post by: James Kraft on July 11, 2014, 10:31 AM
Here are images of the coins. The farthing , the half cent (1961-1964), half cent after 1964 and the 1 cent from 1965 onwards. Hopefully this will help. The key is in the direction the birds face together with the date if visible and the coin size.
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Post by: James Kraft on July 11, 2014, 10:35 AM
The old folks used to say jokingly that from 1965 the people where so cross with each other that it carried over to the birds. From that point forward the two sparrows refuesed to face each other and turned their backs on each other......Lol.. ;D
Title: Re: Noobie in Benoni
Post by: Coinjunky on July 11, 2014, 02:53 PM
Thanks Jamesk , they are defenetly 1 cent coins , just wish I could see the date on them , but all that is visible on the one coin is the 1 and the c and I can just make out the two birds but other than there is nut hung left to read , but I'm loving the hobby so far , can't wait for the hunt with Shawn silver on sat afternoon , so amped , would be out digging right now but my dad just got out of hospital so IV got to look after him , and soon he's gonna join me metal detecting ,as he has always been interested in aswel
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Post by: James Kraft on July 11, 2014, 02:57 PM
Hope your dad gets better soon. I'm hunting again this afternoon after work. Shaun might join me before going back to Benoni.
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 11, 2014, 02:59 PM
I'm trying to post a pick of the two coins but it keeps telling me that the file is too big , and thanks , where u guys going ?
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Post by: James Kraft on July 11, 2014, 03:00 PM
The pic may not be larger than 1mb. Try cropping or compressing it to a smaller size.
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Post by: Shaun Silver on July 11, 2014, 09:43 PM
Hey Keagan PM me your Mobile no: for tommorow ,
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 12, 2014, 10:51 AM
Pm sent  ;D
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Post by: Kobus on July 13, 2014, 09:46 AM
Welcome to the forum and your path full of tresure.
Kobus
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 21, 2014, 03:27 PM
Hay guys , sorry been so quite , went on fishing trip for 8 days . And I took my metal detector with , lol , I have found a howl 750 ha farm that I have permission to md in , I did a quick session there , found a few spent cartridges , sum old nails , the metal bullet head jackets , and helped the farm manager find the bullet in an old ryhno carcass that was poached there , , then I did a few minutes at Losskop dam but nothing came out
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Post by: Coinjunky on July 24, 2014, 07:43 PM
Hay homestead is still working with me , found a 1965 2 c , and what looks like an old Portuguese coin
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Post by: James Kraft on July 24, 2014, 11:20 PM
Getting there I see....Good luck mate.